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| | | Why is there no discussion of J2EE Patterns? | Why is there no discussion of J2EE Patterns? 2005-01-07 - By Ramnish Kalsi
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You are absolutely right. But, then what's the solution about this.
Actually, all these egroups start with a single objective, but will people
joining in and numbers increasing, it becomes very lucrative to ask
questions, which deviate from the purpose of the egroup. Is it wrong ? To me
this looks fine, because the toughest thing to achieve in an egroup is the
quality of audience, and once audience is there in one room, you could ask
other questions from that audience, if they are capable of answering. i do
understand
that any new comers joining in with specific purpose might not like it, but
then that should not be the reason of starting another egroup. 2 solutions
here. Anyone starting/naming an egroup should carefully analyse the name.
Also, all these open-to-all groups become very hard to monitor, so if you
are looking for specific information ONLY, best would be to have a filter in
your mailbox, and check for certain words in the email like pattern or
something, and reject other mails, if thats what you want !!!
makes sense ??
-- --Original Message-- --
From: An interest list for Sun Java Center J2EE Pattern Catalog
[mailto:J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)]On Behalf Of Stefan Frank
Sent: 07 January 2005 11:02
To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
Subject: Re: Why is there no discussion of J2EE Patterns?
I think Tim has a point here: It seems like the J2EE-Patterns have pretty
much saturated by now and therefore the discussions here have significantly
cooled. The hot topics have moved down into specific frameworks (like jsf or
the endless list of IoC-containers, the whole lightweight movement..) - I
personally don't think that this is bad: By definition, there should be a
limited number of patterns and most of these patterns have now been around
for quite a while and it's quite ok, that there a pretty well understood and
there are not so many things left to discuss.
Cheers
Stf
PS: The other, a little less positive interpretation stems from the
lightweight-movement. Underlying all these IoC-Framenworks like Spring or
Pico is the assumption, that there are some seriously flawed concepts inside
j2ee (e.g. EntityBeans) that make the developers life harder as it could be.
By eliminating some of these concepts, there disappears the need for many
j2ee-patterns (e.g. DTO). Of course there appear new patterns - but
obviously these patterns are now discussed somewhere else.
> -- --Original Message-- --
> From: An interest list for Sun Java Center J2EE Pattern
> Catalog [mailto:J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)] On Behalf
> Of Ben Hill
> Sent: Freitag, 7. Januar 2005 11:18
> To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> Subject: Re: Why is there no discussion of J2EE Patterns?
>
> You are able to start discussions yourself without relying on others.
>
> I'm CCing you this mail as you will be unsubscribed by now.
>
> -- --Original Message-- --
> From: Tim Lucas [mailto:t.lucas@(protected)]
> Sent: 07 January 2005 08:05
> To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> Subject: Why is there no discussion of J2EE Patterns?
>
>
> I've been subscribed to this list for a few weeks now and
> have only seen a
> single thread even mildly related to J2EE Patterns (the
> static method in DAOs
> thread).
>
> Just thought I'd send this note of observation before unsubscribing.
>
> - tim
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