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Re: Design discussion

Jin Chun

2005-04-13


Cleaner yes, but really asynchronous ala ajax? Nope :-)
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i absolutely agree with ramnish.
using javascript with xml is cleanest and simplest way to do this.
like gmail does.
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Sent: 12 Nisan 2005 SalĂ˝ 19:43
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On the client side, the technology which google uses is also pretty clean - AJAX - Asynchronous javascript and xml.
There are some good discussions about this on serverside.com
 
But, depends upon, how you want to divide the responsibilities between client and server.
 
ramnish.
 
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Sent: 12 April 2005 17:38
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Subject: Re: Design discussion


I saw a product once that used Javascript to interact with an applet, which then established network connections on its behalf.  I think in that case it was only using straight "pull" HTTP requests, but presumably you could open a connection that would accept a server-initiated "push".

I would expect such an approach to be pretty involved, but you might want to research it more.

Regards,
Jon Petruk


On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:22:07 -0400, Vijay K Dasari wrote

> In Client/ Server model using thick clients like SWING, we can  use an Observer Pattern ( Publish/Subscribe ), where
> the client subscribes to the messages. when the server gets a new message, it can notify all the subscribers(users).
>  
> As Web (HTTP) is stateless, the client has to ask the server for the new messages.
> Client can make request to a servlet(which tells whether the user has any new messages) at certain time intervals.
> In html we can use the "Refresh" metatag. which looks something like
>  
> <meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="1800;URL=/servlet/checkNewMessages.do"/>
>  
>  
> Vijay.
>  
>  

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>

> Our client/server application which work realtime:
> Currently we have a client/server application. Our users log into the client and the system delivers messages to the users.
> when a new message arrives the users see a signal flashing and therby gets notified about the
> new message.
>  
> Now this client needs to be transformed into a web based system.
>
> Instead of the clients logging into the client window, now the users log into the web site.
> The same feature has to be provided.
> when a new message arrives the users have to see a signal flashing and therby gets notified about the
> new message.
> Can you all please suggest a good J2ee design approach for this ?
>  
> How do we enable the flashing signal ? I need some suggestions.
>  
> Thanks,
>
>

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