Spring and JSF 2005-07-07 - By Mark Smith
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This email and subsequent threads seem to imply that if you use struts, you can
not use jsf. That is not true, you can use struts and jsf. It may not integrate
as well as jsf and spring, I don't know since I use struts and do not use
spring. I do know that many struts applications has converted itself to using
jsf in the view tier of struts. I suspect going forward if JSF does manage to
achieve some of it's early hype then we will see most mvc frameworks like
spring and struts integrate with it more effectively. The question I have, is
anyone out there really using jsf for production level code and what is the
good, bad and ugly of using jsf now.
Seems like I've been hearing a lot of hype about jsf for some time but not a
lot of real implementation in it. A lot of people seem to be playing with it
and talking about it and promising front ends that practically build themselves
. I'm wondering if the reality is catching up to the hype.
Another thread indicated that some app servers support EJB 3.0? Have they
released the final spec? I went to their website this morning and it says that
it's in public review. So it's not really final yet that I can see. I wonder
how these implementations will vary from the final release of the spec. We
abandoned entity beans some time ago and we use hibernate but I don't think
session beans and MDB's are all that bad. I think they add a lot to our
application. I'm curious what other people have to say about that. With the new
spec, I believe they have fixed the entity bean problem. I'm curious what the
J2EE community will do with the idea of IOC that the spring framework brings.
With annotation in 1.5, it seems like the disadvantage of having half your
application in xml files is going away and therefore making some of my
objections to spring disappear.
Mark
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From: A mailing list for Java(tm) 2 Platform, Enterprise Edition on behalf of
Yagiz Erkan
Sent: Thu 7/7/2005 4:24 AM
To: J2EE-INTEREST@(protected)
Subject: Re: Spring and JSF
> Thanks very much! Is Spring being used as widely as Struts in
> commercial/govt development? In other words, are technologies like
> Spring and JSF worth the learning curve?
I work for a software development company and we develop Web-based
custom enterprise systems. We've been using Spring for a year and
we're very happy with it.
All our developers are pretty good in Struts, therefore I personally
still don't see a big reason why we should switch to JSF. However, I
was in JavaOne last week and it's no secret that there's a lot of
interest in JSF. I think the market will quickly grow with more and
more tool support and component vendors. I, personally, am going to
keep a close eye on JSF and jump in the wagon when it's the right time
for us. There's a chance that the next time we get a small project, we
can use JSF.
By the way, JSF and Struts are different. JSF is a component/event
based technology whereas Struts is request based. AFAIK, JSF doesn't
have a great navigation support but when it's used with Spring, this
gap can be filled by Spring WebFlow. Have a look at JSF Central:
http://www.jsfcentral.com/
My 2 cents,
- Yagiz -
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