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which framework to use

which framework to use

2003-08-04       - By Marvin D. Toll

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Pradeep,

Have not looked at WAF ... our primary purpose for picking Struts (over a year
ago) was for use of the (what was then a distinct)  Validator framework.  We
perceived the primary advantage, in terms of velocity to the development cycle
to be many hours saved writing validation code.

Excuse my ignorance: Does WAF support validation?

Marvin

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> -- --Original Message-- --
> From: An interest list for Sun Java Center J2EE Pattern
> Catalog [mailto:J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)] On Behalf
> Of Pradeep Kumar
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:19 AM
> To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> Subject: Re: which framework to use
>
>
> You are right, we could definitely use service locator or DAO
> patterns along with struts.
>
> Actually I wanted to say that, WAF provides a tested
> implementation of all these classes, (service, locator,
> business delegation, etc). I could just use them and
> configure my application specific requirements (as opposed to
> writing from scratch). Not a big deal though.
>
> Also I like the view patterns like "composite view and "view
> helper"  than struts tiles.
>
> Thanks.
>  -- --Original Message-- --
> From:   Marvin Toll [mailto:MarvinToll@(protected)]
> Sent:   Monday, August 04, 2003 5:23 PM
> To:     J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> Subject:        Re: which framework to use
>
> Pradep,
>
> I was confused by the comment regarding using Service Locator
> as a differentiator for picking a framework.
>
> We recently completed a utility site with a potential of 3
> million customers ( http://my.dteenergy.com )using Struts 1.0
> and a robust Service Locator for extensive caching (including
> JMS services).  (We even used Service Locator to cache
> environmental variables instead of having them in web.xml to
> facilitate unit testing.)
>
> I don't perceive Struts and Service Locator as mutually exclusive.
>
> Marvin
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:14:11 +0530, Pradeep Kumar
> <pradeepk@(protected)>
> wrote:
>
> >Rangarajan,  thanks for your advice.
> >The project requirement is to use build a simple web based
> application
> with
> >oracle DB.
> >I must use a framework (preferably with the proven MVC 2). I
> think, We
> should
> >leverage on the existing framework, instead of re-inventing
> the wheel.
> >All the architectural requirements fits any one of these
> frameworks. As
> far
> >as design is concerned, that's what these frameworks offer anyway.
> >There aren't any additional design requirements.
> >
> >I am trying to see which one of these would help me in delivering a
> >high quality, flexible, maintainable system.
> >
> >I think, I will probably use WAF as it implements all the web based
> >J2EE patterns (struts doesn't go at the data access layer...for
> >example, with
> WAF
> >I can cache all the JNDI look ups using service locator class).
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> > -- --Original Message-- --
> >From:   Rangarajan , Suresh ( Cognizant )
> [mailto:rsuresh4@(protected)]
> >
> >Sent:   Monday, August 04, 2003 10:00 AM
> >To:     J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> >Subject:        Re: which framework to use
> >
> > << File: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt >> Hi,
> >  You dont use Frameworks and patterns just because they exist. You
> >chooose them according to ur project requirements. If you dont need
> >them you shouldnt be using them. Throw some light on the
> >architectural,design level requirements of ur system..
> >prob. some one could help u.
> >
> >
> >-- --Original Message-- --
> >From: Pradeep Kumar [mailto:pradeepk@(protected)]
> >Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> >To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> >Subject: which framework to use
> >
> >
> >I need to start building a new web based project, I am kind
> of confused
> >on which framework to use. Here are some of the points that I am
> >currently pondering on.
> >
> >*       Struts 1.1:  proven, very popular. Only concern is
> that its not a
> >standard recommended by Sun (correct me if I am wrong here).
> >*       Java Server faces: Pushed by Sun as a standard, may
> be part of the
> >future J2EE specs, tutorial is interesting to
> read.....Concern: not yet
> >proven and not yet popular
> >*       Sun one framework : This could be an option, since I will
> probably be
> >using the Sun One app server.
> >*       WAF (web application framework): This one is again
> from Sun, its
> >given as part of the "adventure builder" tutorial. It uses all the
> >latest patterns...I went through the code of the "adventure builder"
> >and I am
> kind
> >of excited to use this.
> >
> >Well, you can see my confusion. I don't want to get biased. Any
> >thoughts
> are
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Pradeep Kumar
> >MindTree Consulting
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