Given an interest in validation handling within the presentation layer ... an
interesting link on a (or the?) JSF strategy is at:
http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.2/tutorial/doc/JSFUsing9.html
Marvin
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> Of Jayaraman Dorai
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> Subject: Re: which framework to use
>
>
> WAF is not supported and hence it is not recommended for
> production use. I use struts now and will move to JSF when it
> is matured.
>
> The attached link is from a chat has this very question of
> the frameworks, answered by the Sun's blueprint team.
>
> http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/community/chat/JavaLiv
> e/2003/jl0408.html
>
> Jayaraman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pradeep Kumar [mailto:pradeepk@(protected)]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:19 AM
> To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> Subject: Re: which framework to use
>
>
> You are right, we could definitely use service locator or DAO
> patterns along with struts.
>
> Actually I wanted to say that, WAF provides a tested
> implementation of all these classes, (service, locator,
> business delegation, etc). I could just use them and
> configure my application specific requirements (as opposed to
> writing from scratch). Not a big deal though.
>
> Also I like the view patterns like "composite view and "view
> helper" than struts tiles.
>
> Thanks.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marvin Toll [mailto:MarvinToll@(protected)]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:23 PM
> To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> Subject: Re: which framework to use
>
> Pradep,
>
> I was confused by the comment regarding using Service Locator
> as a differentiator for picking a framework.
>
> We recently completed a utility site with a potential of 3
> million customers ( http://my.dteenergy.com )using Struts 1.0
> and a robust Service Locator for extensive caching (including
> JMS services). (We even used Service Locator to cache
> environmental variables instead of having them in web.xml to
> facilitate unit testing.)
>
> I don't perceive Struts and Service Locator as mutually exclusive.
>
> Marvin
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:14:11 +0530, Pradeep Kumar
> <pradeepk@(protected)>
> wrote:
>
> >Rangarajan, thanks for your advice.
> >The project requirement is to use build a simple web based
> application
> with
> >oracle DB.
> >I must use a framework (preferably with the proven MVC 2). I
> think, We
> should
> >leverage on the existing framework, instead of re-inventing
> the wheel.
> >All the architectural requirements fits any one of these
> frameworks. As
> far
> >as design is concerned, that's what these frameworks offer anyway.
> >There aren't any additional design requirements.
> >
> >I am trying to see which one of these would help me in delivering a
> >high quality, flexible, maintainable system.
> >
> >I think, I will probably use WAF as it implements all the web based
> >J2EE patterns (struts doesn't go at the data access layer...for
> >example, with
> WAF
> >I can cache all the JNDI look ups using service locator class).
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >From: Rangarajan , Suresh ( Cognizant )
> [mailto:rsuresh4@(protected)]
> >
> >Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:00 AM
> >To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> >Subject: Re: which framework to use
> >
> > << File: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt >> Hi,
> > You dont use Frameworks and patterns just because they exist. You
> >chooose them according to ur project requirements. If you dont need
> >them you shouldnt be using them. Throw some light on the
> >architectural,design level requirements of ur system..
> >prob. some one could help u.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Pradeep Kumar [mailto:pradeepk@(protected)]
> >Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:50 AM
> >To: J2EEPATTERNS-INTEREST@(protected)
> >Subject: which framework to use
> >
> >
> >I need to start building a new web based project, I am kind
> of confused
> >on which framework to use. Here are some of the points that I am
> >currently pondering on.
> >
> >* Struts 1.1: proven, very popular. Only concern is
> that its not a
> >standard recommended by Sun (correct me if I am wrong here).
> >* Java Server faces: Pushed by Sun as a standard, may
> be part of the
> >future J2EE specs, tutorial is interesting to
> read.....Concern: not yet
> >proven and not yet popular
> >* Sun one framework : This could be an option, since I will
> probably be
> >using the Sun One app server.
> >* WAF (web application framework): This one is again
> from Sun, its
> >given as part of the "adventure builder" tutorial. It uses all the
> >latest patterns...I went through the code of the "adventure builder"
> >and I am
> kind
> >of excited to use this.
> >
> >Well, you can see my confusion. I don't want to get biased. Any
> >thoughts
> are
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Pradeep Kumar
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