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2004-11-03 - By TAYLOR, TIM (CONTRACTOR)

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Henry,
A server address consists of an IP address and port often implied by the
application (80 for http). Change either the IP or the port and you have a
different address. Now some confusion may come about if you have seen DNS (or
host file) use of discrete host names for the same IP address. In this case the
host names resolve to the same IP. If you try configure the same ports on these
different host names, there will definitely be a problem.

However, using discrete IP addresses, each can use port 80 safely. In fact, as
someone else has already mentioned, it is the basis of IP-Based Virtual Hosts
to do so and described in the book by Ben and Peter Laurie, Apache: The
Definitive Guide.

regards,
tt

-----Original Message-----
From: Leach, Henry [mailto:HLeach@(protected)]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:16 PM
To:
Subject: RE: [users@(protected)] Web Site

So in a nut shell, even though I will have different IP Addresses, any other
web site listening on port 80 will have to be moved to another port....provided
I want Apache on port 80?

-----Original Message-----
From: Emyr Tomos [ mailto:Emyr.Tomos@(protected)]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:13 AM
To: users@(protected)
Subject: RE: [users@(protected)] Web Site

Ok I'm a little curious about something - two IP addresses?
Surely the only way a single machine can have more than one IP address is to
have two separate network interfaces - like two ethernet cards?

Even if you could set one interface to answer to two different IP addresses,
surely there would be only one port 80 between them?

Sorry again for going off topic - this piqued my curiosity as it's a little
lower-level than I normally go and goes against my (slight) understanding

em

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Campbell [ mailto:PCampbell@(protected)]
Sent: 03 November 2004 19:07
To: 'users@(protected)'
Cc: 'HLeach@(protected)'
Subject: RE: [users@(protected)] Web Site

Henry,

We answered this yesterday in depth...

You can't run 2 different web server softwares on the same port on the
same IP.

You have to either run them on different ports, different IP addresses,
or with 1 IP and 1 port, use name based virtual hosts on Apache and
ReverseProxy the IIS website.

Patrick Campbell
OurVacationStore.com
Website Administrator
pcampbell@(protected)
-----Original Message-----
From: Leach, Henry [ mailto:HLeach@(protected)]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:59 AM
To: 'users@(protected)'
Subject: [users@(protected)] Web Site

Question:
I want to host a web site on a server that already has IIS running. The
server already hosts another web site running IIS using port 80. I want
to use a different IP Address and host another web site using Apache,
can I use port 80 with Apache with this different web site using the
different IP Address or will I run into trouble. Since port 80 is
already occupied by a web site running IIS?

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<DIV>Henry,</DIV>
<DIV>   A server address
consists of an IP address and port often implied by the application (80 for
http). Change either the IP or the port and you have a different address. Now
some confusion may come about if you have seen DNS (or host file) use of
discrete host names for the same IP address. In this case the host names
resolve
to the same IP. If you try configure the same ports on these different host
names, there will definitely be a problem.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>However, using discrete IP addresses, each can use
port
80 safely. In fact, as someone else has already mentioned, it is the basis of
IP-Based Virtual Hosts to do so and described in the book by Ben and Peter
Laurie,  Apache: The Definitive Guide.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>regards, tt</DIV>
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  -----Original
Message----- From: Leach, Henry
[mailto:HLeach@(protected)] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:16
PM To: Subject: RE: [users@(protected)] Web
Site </DIV> 
So in a nut shell, even though I will have different IP
Addresses, any other web site listening on port 80 will have to be moved to
another port....provided I want Apache on port 80?
-----Original Message----- From: Emyr
Tomos [<A href="mailto:Emyr.Tomos@(protected)">mailto:Emyr.Tomos@(protected)</A>]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:13 AM
 To: users@(protected) Subject: RE
:
[users@(protected)] Web Site 
Ok I'm a little curious about something - two IP addresses?
 Surely the only way a single machine can have more than
one IP address is to have two separate network interfaces - like two ethernet
cards? 
Even if you could set one interface to answer to two different
IP addresses, surely there would be only one port 80 between them? 
Sorry again for going off topic - this piqued my curiosity as
it's a little lower-level than I normally go and goes against my (slight)
understanding
em 
-----Original Message----- From:
Patrick
Campbell [<A
href="mailto:PCampbell@(protected)">mailto:PCampbell@(protected)
.com</A>]
 Sent: 03 November 2004 19:07 To:
'users@(protected)' Cc: 'HLeach@(protected)'
 Subject: RE: [users@(protected)] Web Site 
Henry, 
We answered this yesterday in depth... 
You can't run 2 different web server softwares on the same port
on the same IP. 
You have to either run them on different ports, different IP
addresses, or with 1 IP and 1 port, use name based
virtual hosts on Apache and ReverseProxy the IIS
website. 
Patrick Campbell OurVacationStore.com Website Administrator
 pcampbell@(protected) -----Original Message----- From: Leach, Henry [
<A
href="mailto:HLeach@(protected)">mailto:HLeach@(protected)</A>] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:59 AM To:
'users@(protected)' Subject: [users@(protected)] Web
Site 
Question: I want to host a web site on
a
server that already has IIS running. The server already
hosts another web site running IIS using port 80. I want to use a different IP Address and host another web site using
Apache, can I use port 80 with Apache with this
different web site using the different IP Address or
will I run into trouble. Since port 80 is already
occupied by a web site running IIS? 
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