HELP! PLEASE! 2004-11-06 - By Tim Burden
Open your telnet app, connect to the server name or IP address in question
on port 80 (this differs depending on your version of telnet, so you'll have
to figure it out), and type the following (I'll borrow the syntax from
another fellow recently):
HEAD /myfile.swf HTTP/1.1<ENTER>
Host:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx<ENTER>
<ENTER>
Then capture that output and paste it here. The idea is to sort of mimic
what your browser is actually sending and get a look at the response
headers. If we're lucky it'll actually send a mime type, a content length
and other goodies.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Corey Woodcox" <disguised.jedi@(protected)>
To: <users@(protected)>
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [users@(protected)] HELP! PLEASE!
> Could you say that in a little more plain english, or send me a
> sample? I'm afraid I don't really know what you are talking about.
>
> Thanks . . .
> --
> The Disguised Jedi - Corey Woodcox
> disguised.jedi@(protected)
>
> PHP rocks!
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:15:51 -0500, Tim Burden <tim@(protected)> wrote:
> > Try telnetting to the server on port 80 and issue a HEAD request for the
> > file. Let us see the output of that.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Corey Woodcox" <disguised.jedi@(protected)>
> > To: "Emyr Tomos" <emyr.tomos@(protected)>
> > Cc: <users@(protected)>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [users@(protected)] HELP! PLEASE!
> >
> > > I didn't write the app, but I have the original source, no other
> > > document is being referenced. If i load the HTML by bypassing apache
> > > altogether (file://C:/[path]) it works great, it all runs, and
> > > everything, which makes me think it's an apache problem. I've read
> > > elsewhere on the web that it sometimes has to do with a MIME
> > > configuration problem, but i've checked and double checked, even
> > > written in a *.flash file type and tried that...no results from
> > > either.
> > >
> > > Thank you all for your responses!
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Disguised Jedi - Corey Woodcox
> > > disguised.jedi@(protected)
> > >
> > > PHP rocks!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:13:47 -0000, Emyr Tomos <emyr.tomos@(protected)>
> > wrote:
> > > > FYI
> > > > this is an accurate description of how Flash is often used, but it
is
> > > > not something built into it; the more general scenario is this:
> > > > 1.EMBED tag instructs built-in client-side plug in to fetch SWF
file
> > > > with src attribute
> > > > 2.SWF code is loaded and runs
> > > > 3.SWF code can contain inside itself certain instructions for the
flash
> > > > plugin to fetch further data and classes from remote sources; these
> > > > sources will be coded in the Flash app unless you use the javascript
> > > > interface to send it instructions, which it doesn't sound as if
you're
> > > > doing.
> > > >
> > > > It's become a convention that a Flash app will first send a loading
> > > > screen + instruction to fetch further classes to improve uer
perception,
> > > > .
> > > > Who wrote the Flash app? Do you have the source code? Where is it
trying
> > > > to load the further classes and data from?
> > > > Is there maybe a path coded in the SWF which isn't under your
docroot?
> > > > (Check error logs to see if you get a 404 for a .swf request)
> > > > Does it point to some other IP/Domain, in which case it won't appear
in
> > > > your error logs.
> > > > Just speculation ...
> > > > em
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Corey Woodcox [mailto:disguised.jedi@(protected)]
> > > > Sent: 03 November 2004 22:00
> > > > To: users@(protected); vancel@(protected)
> > > > Subject: Re: [users@(protected)] HELP! PLEASE!
> > > >
> > > > Yes, this is the process as far as I know. However, accessing my
laptop
> > > > from a remote computer (with a different IP) doesn't work either. I
am
> > > > puzzled as to why this won't work, as it just doesn't make sense.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Disguised Jedi - Corey Woodcox
> > > > disguised.jedi@(protected)
> > > >
> > > > PHP rocks!
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:24:46 -0600, Laura Vance
> > > > <vancel@(protected)> wrote:
> > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "Loading" screen have to
be
> > > > > loaded from the server to even run? Or, a better way to ask the
> > > > > question is, doesn't the loader have to be transmitted from the
server
> > > >
> > > > > before it can start loading its data? This may not be making any
> > > > > sense, so I'll do a scenario.
> > > > >
> > > > > My understanding of flash is this:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. browser contacts server to request file (in this case, flash
> > > > > application) 2. server sends flash app (loader) back to browser 3.
> > > > > flash app runs then connects back to the server to retrieve the
data
> > > > > (fancy "loading" screen is displayed) 4. server replies by sending
> > > > > data that the flash loader requested. 5. flash animation plays and
> > > > > everyone is happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > It sounds like yours is breaking down somewhere in step 3. If
this is
> > > >
> > > > > true, then your problem is how your flash loader app connects to
the
> > > > > server to retrieve the actual data/classes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Might there be a firewall on your laptop that is not on the
server?
> > > > > Might the flash loader be trying to connect to an IP address and
your
> > > > > laptop doesn't understand since it's on the same machine?
> > > > >
> > > > > If apache never served the loader to your browser, wouldn't it
just
> > > > > show a blank space where the flash was supposed to go?
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, I've never programmed flash myself, but this is my
> > > > > understanding of the flash "handshake" to get an app loaded.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Corey Woodcox wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Same thing...just sits on the "Loading..." and Flash says "movie
not
> > > > > >loaded". Thank you for your quick responses!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Laura Vance
> > > > > Systems Engineer
> > > > > Winfree Academy Charter Schools
> > > > > 6221 Riverside Dr. Suite 110
> > > > > Irving, Tx 75039
> > > > > Web: www.winfreeacademy.com
> > > > >
> > > >
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