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Struts & Hibernate
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| | | -none- | -none- 2007-10-03 - By Gabe Wong
Back
Thanks for clarifying. Sound like you are caught between a rock and a
hard place.
Good luck.
Charl Gerber wrote:
> Costs - the only way I can get a private Tomcat JVM in
> South Africa, is dedicated hosting. Ie, renting a
> complete machine. Costs are about 10x as much as
> shared VM.
>
> As I said, I have a private VM at a US based account
> and it works beautifully, but in South Africa (where
> the app MUST be hosted), we do not have that option
> without very high costs.
>
>
> --- Gabe Wong <gabrielw@(protected)> wrote:
>
>
>> I am not sure how a private JVM on a VPS or on a
>> regular shared OS can
>> be more difficult than the challenges you are
>> facing with the present shared JVM. A shared JVM is
>> good for a very
>> basic JSP/Servlet application. However by its nature
>> (shared), you will not be able to do certain
>> configurations required for
>> more complex applications because that is only
>> possible
>> on your own private installation or instance.
>> Remember on a shared JVM,
>> you as well as others are using the same application
>> server instance and
>> JVM.
>> So image if everyone is able to make changes on the
>> global configuration
>> file e.g. server.xml,etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Charl Gerber wrote:
>>
>>> I currently DO have my own Tomcat server, but the
>>> application is now moved to South Africa (site for
>>>
>> a
>>
>>> business over there, makes it a lot faster for the
>>> users who will 99% be based in SA) and Tomcat
>>>
>> hosting
>>
>>> alone is difficult, leave alone a private JVM.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Ken Bowen <kbowen@(protected)> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Why not move your hosting to an isp who provides
>>>>
>> a
>>
>>>> vps?
>>>> Then you get complete control of your own tomcat;
>>>> the whole thing looks and
>>>> feels like you have your own server, even though
>>>>
>> you
>>
>>>> are sharing the
>>>> physical machine.:w
>>>>
>>>> The prices I've seen are comparable to those
>>>>
>> where
>>
>>>> you have to share
>>>> your tomcat.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents...
>>>>
>>>> Ken Bowen
>>>>
>>>> Charl Gerber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Turns out datasource configuration is not
>>>>>
>> possible
>>
>>>>> using Plesk as a shared tomcat server, the guys
>>>>>
>> at
>>
>>>>> Plesk themselves told me.
>>>>>
>>>>> That sucks. Means I have to create and manage
>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> Datasource in my app... minor refactoring, but
>>>>>
>> not
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> nice way of doing it. I also use hibernate and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> could
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> only get that working by defining its own
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> connection
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> pooling. So now I have two pools :((
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Pid <p@(protected)> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Charl Gerber wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just moved my hosting from a provider where
>>>>>>>
>> I
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> had a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> private Tomcat server with complete control
>>>>>>>
>> over
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a provider that uses Plesk and I share the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> Tomcat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> server with other users. The provider has no
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tomcat
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> knowledge in house and the Tomcat service is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> rarely
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> used, so they couldn't help me with this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> which version of tomcat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to create a jdbc datasource for my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we manually create it in server.xml, the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> provider
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> claims that the changes are overwritten and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> removed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> every time someone uploads a new .war file.
>>>>>>>
>> (Is
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> true?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> AFAIK, server.xml is not altered by war file
>>>>>> deployments.
>>>>>> Tomcat would need to be restarted in order that
>>>>>> those alterations to
>>>>>> server.xml are evaluated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also do not want to define the datasource as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> eg a global resource, as it would mean the
>>>>>>>
>> other
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> users
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of the tomcat server can get access to my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> database.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried to configure the datasource in the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> context.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of my application and put it in my .war file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> This
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> works fine on my development server, but when
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> uploaded
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to the Tomcat server with Plesk, a server.xml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> entry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for my application is created without the
>>>>>>>
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Regards
Gabe Wong
Private JVM JAVA Hosting Automation
http://www.ngasi.com
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