 | | | Re: Controlling Copy/Paste/Print | Re: Controlling Copy/Paste/Print 2004-11-15 - By Pamela Reinskou
I saw the recommendation and it doesn't appear to handle public documents
any better than the built in PDF permissions. I still contend that the
frameset may be the central issue because displayed in a less than full
browser window the PDF will not resize itself correctly. That seems to be
what is driving them to look for an alternate solution; but I doubt they
will find one that:
1. Can handle public documents.
2. Doesn't use image (Tiff) format.
3. Doesn't use role based security.
4. Does the math properly to display in a split screen view (frameset).
IMHO I believe the presentation layer is the problem and that is what needs
to be resolved before anyone looks at alternate page handlers.
I say this because I have a similar problem and while everything works as
advertised when the content is all PDF it does not work correctly when the
content is mixed. I find that I have to alter the same type of frameset
that the Gary has so that that it can handle PDF output correctly. So by
using the built in PDF settings I have reduced my work load down to just
figuring out if a document is in .PDF format and redirecting it to the
correct page viewer.
Pamela Reinskou
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Nelson [mailto:panmanphil@(protected)]
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:05 PM
To: aspnet-architecture@(protected)
Subject: [aspnet-architecture] RE: Controlling Copy/Paste/Print
Not if they don't use Acrobat reader to view the pdf ;-)
When I referred to security vs inconvienience, that what I meant. The adobe
products will make it conconvienient for the average user to cut and paste.
But since you can just download the pdf with another tool, and view with
with another tool, you can't really prevent people from seeing the bytes in
the document that way.
Make sense?
--- "Keith Barrows (StarPilot)" <starpilot@(protected)> wrote:
> But does it allow a rules based control of copy/paste? Everything
> else seems right about this product. However, the end user is allowed
> a limited copy/paste per document - controlled by server side settings
> for each individual.
>
> - Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Nelson [mailto:panmanphil@(protected)]
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:11 AM
> To: aspnet-architecture@(protected)
> Subject: [aspnet-architecture] RE: Controlling Copy/Paste/Print
>
>
> --- Pamela Reinskou <pam.webpyrfect@(protected)> wrote:
>
> > I understand your problem with PDF it really needs to be in a new
> > instance of the browser. However this may be your problem all around.
> > Basically unless you open a new window you have no control over it, so
> > all the code in the world will not prevent the die hard from stealing
> > if that is what they are after.
>
> Just cut me off if everybody already gets this ;-)
>
> If a pdf can be viewed in *any* browser window, it can be downloaded
> with another tool that completely circumvents your browser based
> methods to prevent save, cut and paste. If the bytes can get to any
> process the user chooses, the user can do whatever they want with
> them, period. curl or wget are really simple download tools. Gview can
> display pdfs. So if you want to actually secure this content, you will
> need to control the client side code that displays it.
>
> The tool I mentioned last worked something like this from what I could
> tell.
>
> client opens page.
> activex object is loaded or user is directed to download page, the
> usual drill the activex object opened a secured connection to the site
> to list content user chooses a document to view the activex object
> opened a secure connection to download the document bytes the activex
> object opened the application that displayed the bytes to show me the
> document.
>
> Here is where the proprietary part came in. Whether word, excel or
> pdf, I couldn't save the document, nor browse to the location the
> application thought the temporary file was located. The document never
> "existed" in the sense that it would with a browser that would have
> copied to a temp location before viewing. pretty cool really.
>
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