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JavaOne sucked this year

JavaOne sucked this year

2004-07-06       - By Mark Galbreath

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Unfortunately, I have to agree with everything Asad has said; this was
my 5th JavaOne and may well be my last.  I have noticed a consistent
deterioration in the quality of the shows (AND the parties!) since the
first JavaOne in 1995.  The only things I got out of this JavaOne,
besides the hassles, were

1.  SDK 5.0 previews;
2.  StudioCreator discount subscription;
3.  Opportunity to personally meet many of the authors and fellow
listers I've chatted with over the years;
4.  There were an abundance of very pretty blonde females this
year....coincidence with the quality of the show?

I felt that most of the sessions (I went everyday from 0830 - 1800) were
little more than PR hype or bad PowerPoint presentations sans meaningful
code (at one session "covering" a generic implementation of a DAO, the
speaker intentionally skipped over the source code in order to finish
his speech in time!).  I  think I speak for most, if not all, of us when
I say, "Give me the source, or don't bother."

By the time the BOFs started at 1900, I was too tired to bother, so I
just returned to my hotel and read Brett McLaughlin's and David
Flanagan's "Java 1.5 Tiger: A Developer's Notebook" (O'Reilly 2004),
which was much more interesting than anything "learned" in any of the
sessions.  Especially the general sessions - what a collosal waste of time.

And I want to emphasize Asad's complaints about the food and the
gestapo.   Further, the Exposition was a pale comparison of former
years, with Sun dominating the booths with 30-40 percent of the floor
space, and wouldn't give me a lousy t-shirt because, even though I have
been a member of the Sun Dev Network since 2000, I never received their
stupid plastic card, so I got one and then was told you can't have a
t-shirt until you bring the card back to a subsequent JavaOne.  HOW
FUCKING CHEAP IS THAT???

I think I'll be attending a REAL developers' conference next year.

Mark


Asad Faizi wrote:

>I don't know what all your experience are with this JavaOne, but I found it
>a terrible waste of money and time - it really, really sucked. The contents
>was much below par. The only useful information I got out of JavaOne was the
>preview of what is coming in J2SE and J2EE; but I did not need to spend
>$2,700.00 and waste four days of my life for that - I could have just bought
>a book.
>
>The management was horrible - terrible food, no coffee, tea, or even water,
>and extremely rude people on the floor. I saw one of these "watch-guards"
>practically wrestle away the second Pepsi can from one attendee who dared to
>pick up the extra can of soda with the lunch. Two out of four days the food
>was all gone by the time I made it to the lunch area. I also hated being
>scanned five hundred times in a day.
>
>Well, I think this pretty much was my last JavaOne. Too bad, I have been
>going to everyone of them so far.
>
>Asad Faizi
>
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